Jesus - Pre Crucifixion - Gethsemane
Oct 30, 2008 9:31:49 GMT 1
Post by Anne Terri on Oct 30, 2008 9:31:49 GMT 1
"Aug 3, 2008-July 16, 2017 God's Living Bible – The Third Testament – Research Library – Research From The Holy Bible – Jesus Christ Messiah – The Crucifixion
Before Crucifixion - Comparisons (Research With God Speaking to Carlo Ferdinando and Anne Terri Through The Holy Spirit)
Carlo Ferdinando had a question on the language spoken by Jesus Christ at the time of the trial before his Crucifixion. He wanted to know if Jesus understood Pilate?
Carlo has questioned Jesus' ability to understand the Greek language, with him already knowing Aramaic. Pontius Pilate spoke Greek. What was actually said to Jesus by Pilate, and in what language? Are there witnesses to this as it's is written in the Bible?
AMEN"
AT GETHSEMANE
Anne Terri: Peter was a witness to the trial in John 18, and also there were many false witnesses brought forward against Jesus.
There was another disciple there who speaks to the high priest, at the beginning of Jesus' trial, but is un – named. Who was it? But first, let us compare The Gospels Of The New Testament, not only for the witnesses of this trial, but for discrepancies, and for proof that Jesus did not wish to be Crucified. ''AMEN''
There was another disciple there who speaks to the high priest, at the beginning of Jesus' trial, but is un – named. Who was it? But first, let us compare The Gospels Of The New Testament, not only for the witnesses of this trial, but for discrepancies, and for proof that Jesus did not wish to be Crucified. ''AMEN''
"The Cup at Gethsemane (“God Speaking To Anne Terri Through The Holy Spirit)
1.Let Us Begin.
2.Jesus took with him Peter and two sons of Zebedee.
3.Let this cup pass, is part of the Prophecies Of The Old Testament
4. Jesus did not want to come to Heaven as a Martyr.
5.I Did Not Desire his presence in Heaven yet, it was not his time.
6.AMEN"
See Also
ISAIAH 51: STUDY GUIDE
THE CUP AND THE TEACHINGS OF ISAIAH 51 BECOME PART OF THE PROPHECIES OF THE LAST SUPPER
glbresearch.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=crucfitprop&action=display&thread=1746&page=1#1766
"June 23, 2008 God's Living Bible – The Third Testament – God's New Revelations – God's Teaching Of The Holy Bible – The New Testament – The Parables Of The Fig Tree
Watch And Pray (“God Speaking To Anne Terri Through The Holy Spirit)
Read more: godslivingbible.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=godttnt&thread=347&page=1#360#ixzz1q2xR8700
AMEN"
Matthew 26: 36-47 Gethsemane ... Sit ye here, while I go and pray...the prayer is written as said three times ...
it is written, Judas arrives with a multitude.
36: Then cometh Jesus with them unto a place called Gethsemane, and saith unto the disciples, Sit ye here, while I go and pray yonder
37: And he took with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee,
*and began to be sorrowful and very heavy.
38: Then saith he unto them,
*My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death:
tarry ye here, and watch with me.
39: And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed,
*saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.
40: And he cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and saith unto Peter, What, could ye not watch with me one hour?
41: Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak
42: He went away again the second time, and prayed,
*saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done.
43: And he came and found them asleep again: for their eyes were heavy.
44: And he left them, and went away again, and prayed the third time,
*saying the same words.
45: Then cometh he to his disciples, and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest:
*behold, the hour is at hand, and the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners.
*46: Rise, let us be going: behold, he is at hand that doth betray me.
47: And while he yet spake, lo, Judas, one of the twelve, came, and with him a great multitude with swords and staves, from the chief priests and elders of the people.
" July 16, 2017
God Speaking To Anne Terri Through The Holy Spirit:
Chapter 26 is in the process of Receiving Advanced Colors of The Third Testament
and links to updated research.
I have Asked Anne to return here to an early comparison Study to find the areas about sword
where it is written one of them cut off a servants ear.
Note when you see a false line inserted behind a good statement,
there is an * signifying a black zone. If you read the lines leaving out the black zones,
you will learn what Jesus actually said to his Disciples, and of inserts which did not happen.
AMEN"
God Speaking To Anne Terri Through The Holy Spirit:
Chapter 26 is in the process of Receiving Advanced Colors of The Third Testament
and links to updated research.
I have Asked Anne to return here to an early comparison Study to find the areas about sword
where it is written one of them cut off a servants ear.
Note when you see a false line inserted behind a good statement,
there is an * signifying a black zone. If you read the lines leaving out the black zones,
you will learn what Jesus actually said to his Disciples, and of inserts which did not happen.
AMEN"
''Matthew Compared To Mark At Gethsemane (God Speaking To Anne Terri Through The Holy Spirit)
1.You can see above, that Judas has arrived in Matthew 26:47, and with him, men with swords.
2.Compare this with the next section, which is from Mark.
3.In Mark, they name the place, Gethsemane and it's written that Jesus said, that I Should Take away the cup from him.
4.Also, the three disciples he takes with him are now named as Peter, James and John.
5.AMEN''
1.You can see above, that Judas has arrived in Matthew 26:47, and with him, men with swords.
2.Compare this with the next section, which is from Mark.
3.In Mark, they name the place, Gethsemane and it's written that Jesus said, that I Should Take away the cup from him.
4.Also, the three disciples he takes with him are now named as Peter, James and John.
5.AMEN''
Mark 14: 27-31 (Betrayal By Peter Said By Jesus At Mount Of Olives)
27: And Jesus saith unto them,
All ye shall be offended because of me this night:for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered.
28: But after that I am risen, I will go before you into Galilee.
29: But Peter said unto him, Although all shall be offended, yet will not I.
30: And Jesus saith unto him, Verily I say unto thee, That this day, even in this night, before the cock crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice.
31: But he spake the more vehemently, If I should die with thee, I will not deny thee in any wise. Likewise also said they all.
Zechariah 13:7 The Sheep Will Be Scattered ...
Zechariah Chapter 13:7 the sheep shall be scattered
7: Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones.
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Zechariah Chapter 13:7 the sheep shall be scattered
7: Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones.
Read more: glbresearch.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=lech&thread=1327&page=1#1335#ixzz1q2ePXHk7
Mark 14: 32-41 Gethsemane – Jesus Prays – Tarry ye here and Watch ...Peter James and John Sleep
32: And they came to a place which was named Gethsemane: and he saith to his disciples, Sit ye here, while I shall pray.
33: And he taketh with him Peter and James and John,
*and began to be sore amazed, and to be very heavy;
34: And saith unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful unto death:
tarry ye here, and watch.
35: And he went forward a little, and fell on the ground, and prayed
* that, if it were possible, the hour might pass from him.
36: And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee;
*take away this cup from me:nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.
37: And he cometh, and findeth them sleeping, and saith unto Peter, Simon, sleepest thou? couldest not thou watch one hour?
38: Watch ye and pray, lest ye enter into temptation. The spirit truly is ready, but the flesh is weak.
39: And again he went away, and prayed,
*and spake the same words.
40: And when he returned, he found them asleep again, (for their eyes were heavy,) neither wist they what to answer him.
41: And he cometh the third time, and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest:
*it is enough, the hour is come; behold, the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners.
''Mark 14 - Men With Swords (God Speaking To Anne Terri Through The Holy Spirit)
1. In Mark 14:43 it is the same as in Matthew 26:46-47.
2. Judas arrives with the men and they are ready to take Jesus at sword point.
2. AMEN''
Mark 14: 42-45 Jesus – Master , Betrayed By The Kiss Of Judas
*42: Rise up, let us go; lo, he that betrayeth me is at hand.
43: And immediately, while he yet spake, cometh Judas, one of the twelve, and with him a great multitude with swords and staves, from the chief priests and the scribes and the elders.
*44: And he that betrayed him had given them a token, saying, Whomsoever I shall kiss, that same is he; take him, and lead him away safely.
45: And as soon as he was come, he goeth straightway to him, and saith, Master, master; and kissed him.
Anne Terri: In the Gospel of Luke, when Jesus Prays at the Mount of Olives, it is claimed an angel arrives to comfort Jesus. This does not appear in any of the other Gospels. Also, how do they know the exact words of his Prayers if they are asleep? ''AMEN''
“God Speaking To Anne Terri Through The Holy Spirit: Hold here for today, as you are seeing now more clearly that Luke has an insert which is not in Matthew 26 or Mark 14 AMEN”
LUKE - GETHSEMANE
Luke 22: 39-48 Jesus to his disciples says Pray that ye enter not into temptation ... Jesus Prays at the Mount of Olives... remove this cup ...angel appears, A multitude arrives with Judas who then kisses Jesus...
39: And he came out, and went, as he was wont, to the mount of Olives; and his disciples also followed him.
40: And when he was at the place, he said unto them, Pray that ye enter not into temptation.
41: And he was withdrawn from them about a stone's cast, and kneeled down, and prayed,
42: Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.
42: Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.
43: And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him.
44: And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground.
45: And when he rose up from prayer, and was come to his disciples, he found them sleeping for sorrow,
46: And said unto them, Why sleep ye? rise and pray, lest ye enter into temptation.
47: And while he yet spake, behold a multitude, and he that was called Judas, one of the twelve,
went before them, and drew near unto Jesus
to kiss him.
48: But Jesus said unto him, Judas, betrayest thou the Son of man with a kiss?
JOHN - GETHSEMANE
Anne Terri: Note John 17: 9-16. Part of Jesus' prayer to God, at Gethsemane. In this section of John Gospel, I found nothing referring to Jesus' asking God to take away the cup from him. Meaning his mission. Yet, if you follow Us to the next section, John 18, it's mentioned.
''John 17 - Protect My Apostles From Evil (God Through Anne Terri)
1.Anne has noticed that in this section of John, Jesus speaks as if he has already come to Me.
2.And finally, in line 15 of John 17, you see that he is Praying that I Do Not Take them from the world but Protect them from evil.
3.Find what you are looking for, about the cup, at the Garden of Gethsemane.
4.It is in another section.
5.AMEN''
Anne Terri: God, I found it, for this is not in order. John 14 - John 17 should have been part of Acts. You Lord, Have Guided me through this for several months. I will place the link below, to The Study Guides of John 14-17. God's Transcripts are there.
Link To John 14 Study Guide:
JOHN CHAPTER 14 RESEARCH STUDY GUIDE
John Chapter 14:1-4 ''In my Father's house are many mansions ...I will come again...''
John 14: 5-7 ''no man cometh unto the Father, but by me''
John 14: 8-11 ''He that hath seen me hath seen the Father''
John 14:12-15 – ''If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
John 14: 15-21 The Comforter
John 14: 22-25 Not Iscariot
John 14: 26-31 ''The Comforter Which is the Holy Ghost''
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Link To John 14 Study Guide:
JOHN CHAPTER 14 RESEARCH STUDY GUIDE
John Chapter 14:1-4 ''In my Father's house are many mansions ...I will come again...''
John 14: 5-7 ''no man cometh unto the Father, but by me''
John 14: 8-11 ''He that hath seen me hath seen the Father''
John 14:12-15 – ''If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
John 14: 15-21 The Comforter
John 14: 22-25 Not Iscariot
John 14: 26-31 ''The Comforter Which is the Holy Ghost''
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John 17:6-10 ''whatsoever thou has given me are of thee... And all mine are thine, and thine are mine;''
6: I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.
7: Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee.
8: For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.
9: I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
10: And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.
John 17:11-12 ''I am no more in the world... While I was with them in the world ...''
11: And now I am no more in the world,but these are in the world,
and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one as we are.
12: While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost,
but the son of perdition that the scripture might be fulfilled.
John 17:13 ''Now Come I To Thee''
13: And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.
John 17:14-19 ''I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world ... keep them from the evil... They are not of the world... Sanctify them''
14: I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
15: I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
16: They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
17:Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
18: As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.
19: And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
Anne Terri's Notes – John 18
John 18 brings us back to before the Crucifixion, in the garden which is not named, but the brook is. Cedron. John shares that Judas was also familiar with this spot. It seems every time the name Judas is mentioned, it's in conjunction with betrayal of Jesus.
John 18:1-2 The Brook Cedron- The Garden
1: When Jesus had spoken these words, he went forth with his disciples over the brook Cedron, where was a garden, into the which he entered, and his disciples.
2: And Judas also, which betrayed him, knew the place: for Jesus ofttimes resorted thither with his disciples.
Anne Terri: This is written strangely. The word 'received' could mean a bad translation, or that at a gate, Judas Iscariot answered a call, and let the band of men into where they were.Remember here, that there is nothing written of Jesus Praying, or that the three chosen disciples Peter, John, and James should stay awake. In The Gospel of John this is not written.
John 18:3 Judas Receives A Band ....
3: Judas then, having received a band of men and officers from the chief priests and Pharisees, cometh thither with lanterns and torches and weapons.
VARIANCES IN THE SWORD
Anne Terri: In Matthew 26 , which seems to be mostly written to fulfill prophecy, I have seen that after Peter drew his sword, he cuts off the ear of one of the high priest's servants. Follow along with us to the next accounts, and note the differences.
MATTHEW - SWORD VARIANCES
Matthew 26: 51-56 One of them takes a sword which struck a servant of the high priest ...All the disciples forsook him and fled
51: And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priest's, and smote off his ear.
52: Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.
53: Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?
54: But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?
55: In that same hour said Jesus to the multitudes,Are ye come out as against a thief with swords and staves for to take me? I sat daily with you teaching in the temple, and ye laid no hold on me.
56: But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled.
MARK SWORD VARIANCES
Anne Terri's Notes: In Mark 14:46-49, Simon Peter is not named as the one who cut off the servant's ear. Jesus does not say put away your sword. There is sense in the line written, where he speaks that they could have come for him during the day. It is written that all of Jesus' followers fled.
Mark 14: 46-49 (One Of Them Cuts Off A Servant's Ear)
46: And they laid their hands on him, and took him.
47: And one of them that stood by drew a sword, and smote a servant of the high priest, and cut off his ear.
48: And Jesus answered and said unto them, Are ye come out, as against a thief, with swords and with staves to take me?
49: I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled.
50: And they all forsook him, and fled.
Anne Terri: Here below, in Mark 14:51-52, Mark seems to give himself away, as the one whom just had time to get clothed and was running too. He then flees naked for they had ahold of the cloth. They were trying to catch all of them, and there was massive confusion.
Mark 14: 51:52 (Young Man Flees From The Multitude)
51: And there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold on him:
52: And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked.
LUKE SWORD VARIANCES
Anne Terri: Luke 22:36-38 it is written, where it shows a different Jesus from the one we have come to know as Peaceful. Yet the documentation goes back to no sword in Luke 22: 49-51
Luke 22:35-38 Buy Swords
35: And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing.
36: Then said he unto them,
But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
37: For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.
38: And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords.
And he said unto them, It is enough.
''Luke 22: 36-38 Jesus Wants Swords? (God Speaking To Anne Terri Through The Holy Spirit)
1.Note these lines above, in Luke 22.
2.It speaks as if Jesus wants them to go out and to buy swords, after they sell their cloaks to get the money.
3.How can this be?
4.AMEN''
Anne Terri: God, could this above mean, that Jesus wanted them to fight just long enough to make the Priests angry enough to want him Crucified?
I do not think so!
I believe it has this been added after the Crucifixion, to make it look as if Jesus would fulfill the prophecy of fighting for Israel with a sword, as prophesied? (Hosea 11:1-6) (Micah 5)
Also, see below, in Luke 22: 51, where Jesus heals the man whom has had his ear cut off. How is this possible God? In John 18:10 the ear is cut off, and the servant who lost his ear is named, Malchus, but no healing is mentioned.
''My Miracles Through Jesus (God Speaking To Anne Terri Through The Holy Spirit)
I Can Make it possible for them to see this Miracle, but I Do Not regrow body parts in humans.
AMEN''
Luke 22: 49-53 (Jesus Heals The Servant's Ear)
49: When they which were about him saw what would follow, they said unto him, Lord, shall we smite with the sword?
50: And one of them smote the servant of the high priest, and cut off his right ear.
51: And Jesus answered and said, Suffer ye thus far. And he touched his ear, and healed him.
52: Then Jesus said unto the chief priests, and captains of the temple, and the elders, which were come to him, Be ye come out, as against a thief, with swords and staves?
53: When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.
JOHN SWORD VARIANCES
John 18:10-11 Malchus Smote By Simon Peter's Sword - The Cup
10: Then Simon Peter having a sword drew it, and smote the high priest's servant, and cut off his right ear.
The servant's name was Malchus.
11: Then said Jesus unto Peter, Put up thy sword into the sheath:the cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it?
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AND WHO CAME TO TAKE JESUS?
The Soldiers and or Jews who came to Arrest Jesus
Matthew 26:47 Great Multitude - The Chief Priests and Elders of The People
47: And while he yet spake, lo, Judas, one of the twelve, came, and with him a great multitude with swords and staves, from the chief priests and elders of the people.
Read more: glbresearch.proboards.com/thread/484/jesus-pre-crucifixion-gethsemane#ixzz2PQS4LaMh
Mark 14:43 Judas, one of the twelve and with him a Great Multitude - The Chief Priests and The Scribes and The Elders
43: And immediately, while he yet spake, cometh Judas, one of the twelve, and with him a great multitude with swords and staves, from the chief priests and the scribes and the elders.
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Luke 22:47 A Multitude and he that what called Judas
47: And while he yet spake, behold a multitude,
*and he that was called Judas, one of the twelve, went before them, and drew near unto Jesus to kiss him.
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John 18:3 Judas receives a band of men ... officers from the chief priests and Pharisees
3: Judas then, having received a band of men and officers from the chief priests and Pharisees, cometh thither with lanterns and torches and weapons.
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Anne Terri Continued: Messiah Carlo Ferdinando, who has been assisting with this study, has pointed out the following. ''As you see there were no Romans soldiers when Jesus was taken prisoner by the High priests'', and this is true in Matthew, Mark, and Luke also.
John 18:4 Jesus Knew What Would Happen-Whom seek ye?
4: Jesus therefore, knowing all things that should come upon him, went forth, and said unto them, Whom seek ye?
Anne Terri: Again, Judas as the Betrayer is mentioned. Here he stands, and does not kiss Jesus nor does he say Hail Rabbi.
pointing out the band his master.
pointing out the band his master.
John 18:5 Jesus of Nazareth ...
5: They answered him, Jesus of Nazareth.
Jesus saith unto them, I am he.
And Judas also, which betrayed him, stood with them.
John 18:6 They Fall To The Ground
6: As soon then as he had said unto them, I am he, they went backward, and fell to the ground.
John 18:7-8 Jesus: "Whom seek ye? ... let these go their way"
7: Then asked he them again,Whom seek ye? And they said, Jesus of Nazareth.
8: Jesus answered, I have told you that I am he: if therefore ye seek me, let these go their way:
Anne Terri: Making it fit the Prophecy: There are sections written before this in John which this may be referring to, but none other. See John 6:39, John 17:12
''April 27, 2009 God's Living Bible – The Third Testament – God's New Revelations – God's Teaching Of The Holy Bible – The Old Testament – Isaiah
Isaiah 51 – The Cup and The Teachings Of Isaiah Become Part Of The Prophecies Of The Last Supper. (God Speaking To Anne Terri Through The Holy Spirit)
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AMEN''